Spamouflage: Graphika's Jack Stubbs Featured in New Podcast

"We see it as part of a broader effort by the part of Chinese IO actors to portray the United States and the U.S. system of governance as failing and to seek to infiltrate and destabilize the political conversation."

That assessment of Spamouflage's deliberate attempts to seek out societal rifts and exacerbate them - detailed in Graphika's recent groundbreaking report The #Americans - was the subject of Chief Intelligence Officer Jack Stubbs' new interview with The Active Measures Newsletter Podcast from The Pell Center at Salve Regina University.

In the podcast, Stubbs and hosts Jim Ludes and Mark Jacobson discussed the Chinese state-linked influence operation's more consistent efforts to develop inauthentic personas that identify themselves as U.S. citizens ahead of the 2024 U.S. election - and the importance of timely conversations around the threat of foreign interference.

"What we want to support and make clear is that this is a big and credible threat. These things do happen," Stubbs said. "But we want to make sure that conversations about Chinese IO campaigns targeting the 2024 vote are grounded in objective, fact-based analysis and that the conversations we have about them are grounded in the actuality of what we are seeing out there."

Stubbs also touched on the role of Graphika's work and the importance of information available to Graphika subscribers as election day nears.

"We believe that we have a kind of responsibility and duty to - as well as doing our work for our clients and our intelligence reporting - to help inform public conversations around these issues. And I think ahead of the 2024 election, that's especially important," he remarked.

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